Puppy Social Skills in Aptitude Tests, Pt. 2

I’ve begun a series of posts to explain what’s known as puppy aptitude testing, to help you understand that a puppies personality is often largely “set” by the age of 8 weeks old, when they come home with you. An owner really should take the time and effort to find a breeder that not only does or has done the PAT, but will explain the results and implications of those tests to a buyer.

The first area of social skills in the PAT was discussed in the last post, and concerned the puppy’s social attraction to people. Did the puppy come to you readily despite distractions? Did the puppy follow you, or decide to go pounce on a littermate instead? The idea is to find out how much the little tots ranks people attention as their priority.

This is just a funny pic giving you a “visual aid” in determining social attraction–what’s the most commonly seen side of the puppy, front or back? With my late Kenai, it was the beautiful brown backside!

The next tests in the social skills section of most puppy aptitude tests are to determine “social dominance”. The word “dominance” has become a loaded term in training circles, so I’m going to use a different word: independence. Sometimes a thesaurus is the best way to avoid an argument that eclipses the whole post!

Typically refered to as restraint or handling tests, the idea is to place the puppy’s body in an awkward position and see how they react. Often, tests will gently and gradually roll the puppy to their back and not let them up. Some will lift their bodies slightly off the ground. I’ve even read that some will hold the puppy down on their side in a common restraint position at the vet. Many testers will use more than one restraint position, too.

1) Kenai was a ‘struggler’ who hated to be restrained. He didn’t bite or growl, but he made it clear that he did not like this. His usual vet techs learned not to hold him down, since he would not stop struggling in a reasonable amount of time. I went all out adjusting him to every sort of body part handling and he would dutifully hold still for whatever the vet needed to do, however “indelicate”.

2) my late Taj would resist just a little bit, then decide it was a good opportunity for a tummy rub and wag his tail, looking at you with soft, playful eyes. He hardly ever met a stranger, my Taj-ster. Some puppies will avoid looking at you but not be distressed by restraint. These are good results, when they quit the “lemme up” fuss quickly.

3) my late Shabah, the puppy mill rescued merle, would struggle only a very little, avoiding eye contact, tucking his tail, and sometimes whimper. If it was a man doing this, he would even piddle some. This is a highly submissive, insecure reaction and it was a big clue at how timid he would be as he grew up.

I also worked with him to allow the vet to do even unpleasant things, so long as he wasn’t restrained or cornered, he didn’t get so stressed as to need muzzling. A gentle touch, allowed to watch what they were doing, and lots of reassurance made him managable at the vet. He never gave me any trouble at home, which was good. He had his own “asssigned” vet tech, who had a way with calming him, and always had some gentle reward for him.

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You want a puppy with the Taj-like response. Especially in a large or giant breed dog, who will attain a size that can seriously injure someone. They will more quickly accept handling and messing with, without being distressed by it. I mentioned the vet, but it’s not only the vet that handles a dog. Groomers, show handlers, trainers, kids, and people at the pet store will do things to the dog’s body.

This determination of independence or emotional insecurity is tremendously important for any puppy buyer to know, because kids will hug spontaneously. Kenai would have allowed for a time then gently pulled away. Taj would have gotten happy and wanted to play. Shabah would have growled or even bitten them out of fear. You need to know what it will take to prepare the puppy for the inevitable future rudeness of people.

For an assistance dog, the calm acceptance is required. Such dogs are out in public where no companion goes, and human behavior is unpredictable. Strangers ARE going to put their hands on your service dog. Toddlers will innocently assume your working dog is like their own pet and run right up for a hug and bug. If you begin with a puppy that shows a willingness to accept stranger handling, then you can practice the hugs and bugs until the puppy gently permits it without getting reactive.

Fear and Acceptance…by Lisa Harmon

After just the first post into a “series” about puppy aptitude testing, I’m gonna interrupt for one post. I was reading a friend’s words on Facebook about their fears of failure concerning a service dog. It’s anxiety, it’s PTSD, it’s a chronic sense of failure and fear of continued failure. Only this time the fear she fears most is failing her new assistance dog. I understand that.

Here we get these pure hearted creatures, who look to us and at us; they cannot feed themselves or train themselves, or even always figure out what we want from them. But they love us. And letting down such a creature is worse that even letting down people we love.

Why? Because a person can tell us we hurt them, and tell us they forgive it, and tell us they had expectations. But do dogs have the same expectations? Do they expect us to be perfect, or only to give us the best we are capable of right then? Here was my answer, and I hope against hope it can speak through the fears to her:

I can remember every “failure” from the small to the big my whole life. dogs have taught me the one truly exquisite thing about total acceptance…know we give them the best we are capable of, just as they give us all they have, and that is enough for them.

To honor the dogs that have loved imperfect me so perfectly, I don’t fear making a mistake anymore. Mistakes are how dogs learn what to do and what not to do. From our mistakes we learn to be better partners and handlers, and their love is how we learn to forgive ourselves of the past.

I know it’s incredibly hard, but trust your dog. She is your heart and your strength when your heart and strength are low. Nothing else matters or lasts but love and acceptance like that.

What do you expect of yourself? What do you believe your dog expects from you? Do they have expectations as we understand? It seems to me expectations are an intellectual activity, a projection of what we think “should” be. But dogs? Dogs are heart driven creatures. They just feel, and you can’t feel truly “let down” unless you had some thoughts about how a person “should” be.

Fear is pernitious, insidious, paralyzing, and crushing as boulders on our backs. It will take away what we need, often for fear of nothing more than we are not worthy. Here’s a secret to life: nobody’s worthy, really. Not worthy of the divine and perfect gifts that come to our lives, nor of the horrible, crippling hurts.

Our worth is not defined by what happens to us, nor even what we have done. Our worth comes from being human, from existing in the first place. Dogs know this. How is it that truth so escapes us humans so often? When fear comes, recognize it for what it is, and the lies it’s whispering in your heart. Then set your heart to refuse to let it direct your steps…

Puppy Aptitude Testing…by Lisa Harmon

 One of the “dangers” of going to look at a litter? THEY’RE ALL TOO CUTE! That being said, whether you are looking for a pet, a pup to run rally with you, or a companion, you should consider aptitude testing.

Why? Because nothing takes the joy out of a new puppy faster than realizing they aren’t well suited to your life or family. If you have a busy, kid-filled house and the puppy turns out to be a little timid and noise sensitive, not only does the puppy find your home stressful, you have a lot of changes and choices to make about what to do.

There’s a whole myriad of “uh-oh” that can happen when the owner and puppy aren’t well suited. It’s much better to have had the puppy’s temperment tested before paying for them and putting them through the unavoidable stress of coming to a strange home with strangers and no littermates.

Puppy Aptitude Testing (PAT) is nothing more than finding out the puppy’s natural personality. Most of them break down into simple tests to discover the pup’s level of social skills, learning abilities, and general sensitivity. These are typically done at 6-8 wks old, so the situations you can use to look for an unlearned response are both simple for the test and still novel to the pup.

There are a lot of temperment tests to choose from, as well, mostly variations on the Volhard temperment test: http://www.volhard.com/pages/pat.php I’ve recently purchased a book that is a slight ‘variant’ of the Volhard, designed and written by Joyce Guthrie. She is a breeder, trainer, and experienced Great Dane handler. http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/Vanna11

If possible, you would like a highly experienced person giving the test, and evaulating the results. You should also ask questions of them, like “when you say the puppy is (–), what impact does that have on our lifestyle or training needs?”. Have the evaluator give you details and recommendations not just for which puppy is best for you, but why and what you can expect the puppy to require of you and your family.

PAT is a complicated evaluation, requiring inferences and observational skills, which is why I recommend that it be given and interpreted by someone with experience. But to give you some understanding of the tests and what they are looking for, I’d like to at least hit the high points. I’ll look first at the social skills section of the tests in the next posts; social attraction, following, restraint responses, and level of independence.

A puppy’s natural inclination to come to you will have a big say on how easily they are trained in the future, and ultimately how well they will fit your life. I am no expert, mind you, but I can look back at puppies in my past and see how these tests absolutely predict the future. I’ve sorta “learned the hard way”, so please learn from my mistakes rather than have to make them yourself!

For social attraction and following, the tests are usually just clapping your hands or getting the puppy’s attention at a short distance to see how readily they come or follow you without being distracted, and what body language they show when doing so. I’ll use examples of my own past puppies for some comparison.

1) A puppy like my late Kenai would look at you but often hurry off with his littermates or follow the older dogs. When he did come, he didn’t stay long, looking around for something else to do.

He wasn’t anti-social, mind you. He just prefered canine company, and was pretty independent from the start. Crate training took about 3 days, because he was content enough to lay there by himself. He had a naturally easy temperment, in terms of not misbehaving or tearing things up. He was a calm guy when he was little.

However, I never did get a reliable off leash recall on him. He learned his basic obedience super fast, and was bombproof about noise and new environments when little. But once he made up his mind about a place or object, there was no changing it. Kenai was his own boy; he thought for himself, and problem solved on his own. This creates major challenges for advanced types of training.

2) Levi was in a hurry to come see you, and followed me all over the place. Normally his tail was up and wagging, his eyes happy for the attention. He was a very friendly little fellow, and his attentiveness to humans translated later on to being very easily taught to sit or come. Had there not been other problems I didn’t have the skill and energy to work out, he could have become an outstanding service dog.

3) Shabah couldn’t wait to come to a gentle person with a gentle voice and touch, but he approached with his head low and tail down doing a nervous wag. He was very shy of men and firm handlers in general. He later learned his obedience commands with terrifying speed, and had a nearly 200 word vocabulary, but he was so timid that just going to the pet store was stressful enough to cause him diarrhea. He took as much effort as Kenai on the opposite end of the spectrum, and I never really did trust him around children. He was my “heart dog”, a total soulmate of a pet, but alot of work.

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Oddly enough, the only test that really talks about what Joyce Guthrie refers to as emotionally hard or soft dogs was her own book. All three of these puppies were emotially soft, even independent Kenai. He never required more than a mild scolding to stop unwanted behavior. If I was too harsh with any of them, they would be very upset and devastated. This is something you want to look for too–if your spouse has a tendency to get mad and yell, even an “independent” dog may not be able to cope with it.

If you are looking for a pup with a defined purpose, especially as an assitance dog, the Levi response is not negotiable. Assistance dogs must be human focused and set people as their highest priority. For a dog with that inclination, affection is one of the best rewards, and it makes them much easier to train at advanced levels. Mostly because you don’t have spend time trying merely to get them to pay attention to you.

Now if you have the skill and time to socialize a shy pup like Shabah, or keep a consistently firm but gentle hand with an independent dog like Kenai, then more power to you. However, most people will need to chose a pup like Levi. Shabah would not have done well in a loud, kid-filled home, or as a regular on the agility scene. Neither would Kenai, for very different reasons.

Learning More All the Time

The tile is taking longer than expected, maybe going on until the end of the week.  But last Saturday night was the last one I have to spend sleeping in the kitchen, so the end is in sight. I’d love to put some photos up soon, though I have to wait for the photoshop software to come. I tried downloading it, but no dice, there wasn’t enough RAM in the new computer for a download that size.

Still, I can find pretty colorful pics to share here from the internet! This is a rug set I’ve bought for the various rooms. There’s the bedrooms and entryways and stuff that will need rugs. There’s a lovely echo effect with bare tile!

I wanted a 10×13 or bigger for the living room, but that’s hard to find with a latex backing. (I tend to trip on turned up and skidding carpets). I also want to get some fitted furniture covers, and insulated curtains next month. It may be August but fall and winter isn’t too far away.

I know…this is a blog for dogs, not home decorating! But that’s what I’m stuck doing, for the next couple weeks anyway.

Despite the current state of exhaustion, I figure it’s best to get done what I need to get done now, so I have the winter to rest. As said in an earlier post, I chose tile for it’s being waterproof and easy to clean–less work keeping the house clean for a new puppy.

The rugs I’m looking at, the furniture covers, even the paint type I chose (enamel) has the same purpose: easy to wipe off, or throw in the washer sort of products. The less time I spend scrubbing, the more time and energy I have for a new puppy next year. I found this great article about puppies in general, though it is geared towards assistance dogs. Being the science geek I am, this was my “cup of tea”. http://www.puppyprodigies.org/Early%20Learning%20Focus.htm

“The most influential time of a puppy’s life is between three and six weeks.  Fear is not present in newborn puppies.  It begins to develop slowly around five weeks of age, and increases gradually until it escalates in the fear imprint period during the eighth week.

Therefore, there is a window of opportunity between three and six weeks of age when anxiety levels in the puppy are the lowest they’ll ever be in their entire life.  Anything the puppy is exposed to between this timeframe will therefore be associated with low anxiety.”

Once again, this proves how terribly important it is to choose your breeder with the utmost care: that 3-6 week old socializing window is entirely up to the breeder to make the most of. The early exposures a puppy can have is limited only by creativity really, within the parameters of safety of course. For instance going to different dog parks for an unvaccinated puppy is terribly unsafe. But being wrapped in a blanket and carried into different stores or human environments during the course of those weeks (away from the litter) is an excellent idea.

If you are a breeder, please, please consider improving your early development skills for your litters. If you are looking for a puppy, consider choosing a breeder who uses these techniques. Puppies intended for pets or working dogs alike need the ability to cope with stress, to be unafraid of human generated noise, and accept frequent handling. http://www.puppyprodigies.org/Early%20Learning%20Program%20Highlights.htm

I’ve also been studying charts and graphs about Dane structure in much more detail than ever before. The Great Dane Club of America has an illustrated guide to the standard here: http://www.gdca.org/illustrated-standard.html

I still haven’t gotten the “show lingo” to penetrate my skull too well, though I’ve joined some Facebook owner handler groups to try and learn. They’re also a good resource for which judges like what if I choose to show the next puppy.

Since agility and dog sports aren’t an option for me to practice working with the puppy in loud and distracting environs, as well as accepting handling etc for the Canine Good Citizen test, that leaves showing as a possiblity. Or at least conformation classes.

Knowing the standard isn’t just about beauty though: this pic shows the structure a Dane should have. Variations like too long of a body, or a shoulder with the wrong angles has a direct effect on longevity, in terms of arthritis and joint issues. Even if you are only wanting a companion dog, rather than a working dog, the more you know about health and conformation, the more of the predictable orthopedic troubles you can avoid.

Danes don’t live long, and their prime working age period is short. Sadly, seven years is the average life span these days, so if a dog has good structure, and is well cared for, 10 years of healthy life isn’t too much to expect. That is, barring things like bloat or cancer, or those infernal ticks…

I’ve also updated the feeding and growth page to the right. The links were old and difficult to load now that the articles are archived. So I’ve put new ones up. And I’m still researching particular food brands, in the hopes of creating a list of foods that are good for giant breeds. Most recently, I’ve found the Innova large breed puppy is one of the very few “puppy” kibbles that has safe mineral and protien levels. The adult large breed is also spot on. http://www.innovapet.com/products/941

All the things I’ve written about lately have been ways to give a Dane puppy a leg up for becoming a working dog: early neural stimulation and socializing before 8 wks old for their temperment, being picky about their structure and conformation, putting the greatest time and effort into their training from 8-16 weeks old, too (as opposed to cleaning the house).

It may seem like I’m idle, with no dog to work with right now, but truth is, I’m gearing up. Educating myself, reading and studying, preparing the house to be as little effort as possible all have my end of the deal in mind: the right puppy choice, and the very best love, care, and training I am physically able to provide.

Aggressiveness in Dog Owners…by Lisa Harmon

It seems there’s a huge fight about crate training these days. Some seem to think it’s cruel and done just to temporarily “get rid of” a dog when the owner feels lazy. Huh? First it’s the “food fights” people get in an uproar about, then it’s the choice of leash or training equipment that sets off WW3. Now it’s crates?

It’s amazing to me how wild-eyed hateful dog people can get. Really. If it was our dogs fighting about food or territory, we’d be all over the problem; not to worsen it, but solve it and re-establish a respectful, harmonious relationship. Right? But for some reason we seem to think it’s okay for dog owners to be aggressive to each other, to snarl and bite at each other.

So here’s my thoughts: there is more than one “right” way to raise a child, cook a turkey, treat an injury, and feed a dog. So the heck what if someone chooses a food that has grains in it or decides to feed raw. What gives you or me any right to jump them for it? What difference does it make to me what you feed or what you do with your dog when you have to leave them alone?

One of the things I’ve discovered having service dogs, and I hear it all the time from other SD owners, is that humans seem to think dogs are public property. Some folks go so far as to get miffed and fussy if they aren’t allowed to pet your service dog. It seems they also get miffed if they aren’t allowed to tell you what to feed and how to train your dog. I will try to tell you why a food or training technique is potentially unsafe, but it’s not my right to demand you feed a specific diet or I’ll take a chunk outta ya.

As for crate training, the complaints against it run along the lines of “it’s not comforting, it’s prison”, or “they develop behavior problems from the un-enriched environment”, or the “owner is too selfish”. All of those have the underlying assumption that the dog is left in a crate for extended periods. And another assumption that I totally reject is that the owner who crates doesn’t ever provide an enriched environment, exercise, and interaction to counter the effects of extended crating.

Are there some people who don’t provide play, exercise, and interaction after uncrating the dog? Sure. There are still people who put their dogs permanently on a chain in the backyard too. There are puppy mills. There are animal abusers without question in the world. Does that mean everyone that doesn’t do what you do is abusing their dog? Of course not.

First, some people work. Not everyone can afford doggie day care or ask their mother in law to keep the dog during the day. Second, a dog that is trained to go in a crate to sleep, to have down time, and to have a little private space is not being punished or imprisoned. Third, some dogs will be destructive if left uncrated when alone, doing potentially life threatening things like eating garbage or medicine.

Someone else’s dog is not yours to dictate about, and we have desperately skewed what is abuse and what isn’t. We humans of late have also greatly exaggerated the importance and expertise of our own opinions in just about everything. So I am hoping that doggie people, all people really (ever talk politics?) just calm down and try to regain a reasonable perspective. And remember that dogs are not public property.

Crop Circles, Books, and Computers…by Lisa Harmon

All my painting is done, though it’s not nearly as decorative as this crop circle! I wouldn’t be nearly precise enough to manage anything that cool.

Hopefully you’ll pardon the lack of my own photos for this post, but I’m still figuring out how to load and edit pics on the new computer and software.

Thursday night the lemon laptop finally ruined itself for good: the motherboard and processor both burned up. I couldn’t see putting anymore money into it. Especially considering I could replace it for far less than fixing.

So I have a desktop now, half the cost of laptops, and that’s even with a 21″ flat screen monitor. Not a bad thing, considering how often peering at a computer can trigger migraines! Still it was amazing to me how restless and disturbed I was not being able to get online until Monday.

I discovered Monday that the new book about puppy aptitude testing I was waiting for is available: http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/Vanna11 I’m looking forward to reading it soon. Aptitude testing is something of an art, and the more I know the better.

Monday also began the new floor installation: nearly all our furniture and belongings are in the garage, the carpet with its padding and tack strips were ripped out by evening. I kept a mattress to sleep on, along with my music, and a computer. I believe this is like indoor camping without the smores…

I am still gradually making progress with learning Kundalini yoga and kundalini meditation. It is physically much more difficult than Hatha yoga, at least for me. It is an energetic type of yoga. I cannot finish the whole chakra sequence yet. Like most things, I need to build up to the “full thing”, persistantly improving over time.

Thankfully I’m online again, and can once again keep up with my internet friends. I missed them. Despite the snafu’s and irritations of facebook, it’s much easier to at least know what’s happening with people than one email at a time. Even if FB could drive the Dali Lama to shove someone off a cliff at times…

If you want to find me there, here’s my personal page: https://www.facebook.com/greatdanesd?ref=tn_tnmn

And here’s a group I started for giant breed service dog handlers, breeders, and trainers: https://www.facebook.com/greatdanesd?ref=tn_tnmn#!/groups/340790965990686/

Checking Below Ground…by Lisa Harmon

Life can be hard.

There’s a blog I follow that I simply love, and this is one of the most peircing posts on it I’ve read for awhile. I so completely understand this lady’s words that I have a visceral “YES!! That’s what I’m feeling myself” reaction.

http://hearingelmo.wordpress.com/2012/07/23/another-look-at-isolation/

It seems everyone I know is having a tough time with one thing or another, some with many things all at once. I like to be the one who can say, “It’ll be better soon”, to give some optimism when the glass is half-empty for my friends. I also like when my friends do the same for me. People can be amazingly wonderful!

My glass is half-empty right now. Despite the wisdom of past experience, despite some wonderful people I know through the internet, I feel more than half empty these days. The laundry list of why doesn’t really matter, because we all sometimes find ourselves there with totally different why’s.

Me being, me, my habit is to try to delve beneath the why-list and look at the undertow that has pulled me down. I learned long ago that it’s not the feelings or circumstances that are the problem; it is the beliefs we hold so deep in us that we cannot readily see them, like the roots of a plant.

If the above ground part of the plant is withering, better check below ground

A gardener knows that a seedling gives off moisture and other things through their leaves. Yes, plants ”breathe”, by taking in water and oxygen, giving off CO2 and humidity. This is when they have sufficient moisture and nutrients at the root zone.

A seedling in a pot whose roots leave the pot in search of water and nutrients are “air pruned”. They cannot find soil or water, so they will harden up and stop growing. That’s when the warmth and sunshine every plant needs becomes detrimental rather than beneficial. The warmth and sunlight dries the plant out further. An air pruned seedling really needs repotting to a larger container, or to be planted in open ground.

Danes have always been warmth and sunshine to me. But of late, however dear I loved them, BB and Kenai’s needs  followed by Levi’s difficulties dried me out and left me air pruned. My lovely beautiful boys and some issues at home took more out of me that I could afford to give out. My proverbial roots are parched and hardened.

A picture got my attention the other day, and the more I contemplate it, the more I believe a deep answer lies therein.

Comparison is a dangerous game to play. Comparing yourself to others is an obvious mistake. No one can walk in your shoes, can have in your memories and experiences, so a person to person comparison is apples to oranges.

But there’s a comparison game that can go unrecognized: comparing your circumstances, your emotions, your situation with the picture you have in your head about “what should be”. Expectations we have and don’t know about are immensely powerful things.

Take Levi’s problems as example: it wasn’t Levi, it was my expectation that I should have been able to help him adjust. I have experience with dogs after all, I have some skills as a trainer and dog owner. I wanted so badly to prove to some nay-sayers that a Dane most certainly can tell one color from another and build a remarkable task list to help me.

I expected somewhere inside that if I worked hard enough, was a smart and good enough trainer, that little Levi was gonna prove what a Dane can do. And I was gonna prove what I could do, disability be hanged. I’m no failure, durn it, “I CAN”. I can overcome, and adapt, and be (____).

God’s truth, the ordeal with Levi made me deeply doubt whether or not I am still capable of working and living with dogs.  3 dogs in a row, washed. Yes there were their illnesses, there were problems with their aptitude for the job. But I couldn’t overcome those problems. I took those “fails” personally, as if it reflected on my personality, my ability, my judgement.

Each “fail” was air pruning me more and more, and went unaddressed. As my health problems worsed, I put band-aids on them to get by and keep going, wanting to put the dogs’ needs first.

Living with my Mom, well, she’s so far down in depression and PTSD that she is incredibly needy and demanding as well. It’s a mess, and an exhausting one at that.

So I was hell bent on having a success, having a loving Dane that could be nourishing, and warming, and assistive to me just by being the loving, gentle creatures they are. Oh how I miss that flow of love and nourishing between me and a dog…

But I’m hardened and parched, so can even a Dane penetrate that dried out ground? Probably not. I need to deal with me, to face and feel and consciously consider my expectations and needs. It’s up to me to soften, and open, and stop avoiding.

My usual treatments aren’t working: biofeedback, medicine, vitamins. On the advice of an internet friend, I’m going to try something new and a bit foreign to me. This friend is an energy healer, who explained much of the complexities of chakras and energy flow through the body in a simple clear way for me.

Her terminology for air pruned and hardened is closed chakras, not allowing my emotions and physical state to balance itself and be healthier. The biofeedback can’t help as much as once because my heart and body has shut itself down and closed off.

So it’s Kundalini yoga time for me. It’s physically challenging right now, and the meditation part is difficult for me too. But I am tenacious. That I have proven to myself. I can endure and keep trying rather well. I was just enduring and keeping on with motives and expectations that were becoming destructive.

Don’t worry, I’m not moving to India or wearing hemp anytime soon! But if this new tool in the shed helps me, then I’m glad to have it. It’s called in the Bible “redeeming the time”, while I wait for the right little fur-man to come into my life, with the aptitude and personality that dovetails with my own. He’s coming, this toddly playful baby Dane. I want to be ready when he appears…

Thank you Kenai, and BB, and Levi. You’ve each brought me wisdom, and I love you still, always.

European Danes in America…by Lisa Harmon

remember this boy? Kenai, my late part European Dane.

If the number of breeders with big athletic American Danes that win in a show ring are small, the number of breeders whose European or part Euro Danes that win in an AKC show ring are even smaller. Most attend International shows here, and fare better.

Euro Danes have heavier bone, bigger heads, more jowels, and they do not generally get rewarded for it in the AKC. There’s a good deal of subjectiveness in conformation shows. It puts off alot of people who want to show and have dogs worthy of it.

The choices aren’t neccessarily limited for quality European bloodlines in America. Importing is common. But my choices for show quality Euro Danes who’s breeders use the ENS and rules of sevens for early, effective socializing are drastically more limited.

Lots of people are breeding “Euro’s” in America now and some have wonderful dogs, but be cautious: a large number of breeders will get an import then slap a $2000 price tag on a puppy. You can’t call a pup show quality because the pup came from champion lines. A champion line doesn’t guarantee a well made, good temperment Dane.

The European Danes tend to be heavier in body, and that can make for conformation issues too. As far as temperment, Euros often are more laid back and easy, but many are just plain hard-headed. The personalities of European and American Danes have some differences as distinct as their appearance.

There are some excellent Euro and part Euro Danes in the US, but searching for a Euro Dane is a buyer beware situation. I really detest how buying a quality Great Dane has become such a heartbreaking ordeal for puppy buyers. The nightmare stories are abundant. That is partly why I’m naming the breeders I’ve found who use ENS and rules of sevens to prepare their litters for life beyond the litter. I can’t list or even find all the outstanding breeders, btw, so don’t think this is comprehensive at all.

If you are looking for a Euro puppy, please, please, please know the Great Dane Club’s breeder ethics inside and out. DO NOT BUY from a breeder that doesn’t follow them. Ethics means no breeding merles, no crossing color lines like blues with fawns, no breeding a bitch every year…

The point of breeding isn’t because they love their dogs, want to create “rare” colors, or worse, are in it for money. Breeding is to create healthier, physically and mentally sound Great Danes. And the ENS, rules of sevens, and sound sensitization makes for better temperment on any puppy, companion or working dog.

RENAISSANCE GREAT DANES

http://www.renaissancegreatdanesandneos.com/Ourdanes.html

Renaissance Danes breed blues, blacks, harls, and they have a fawn they call a professional couch potato! This pic is of a stud named Pharaoh. They show some, though not heavily, but certainly can tell what is show quality and what isn’t.

I struck pay dirt here. This breeder uses ENS stimulation, she’s been a positive reinforcement trainer for years, she has degrees in Animal Science, behavioral psych, and worked as a vet tech. She exposes her pre 8 wk old puppies to everything imaginable, including agility equipment, and provides the very best socializing experiences possible.

I fully intend to drive up for some visits, and let her get to know me. What I need and what personality of puppy will work out for me has proven to be a bit of a tricky picking job. As we become better aquainted, I’ll explore her knowledge of aptitude testing, and am both glad and intimidated that she insists on following her puppies after they’ve been placed.

It’s wonderful that she cares, but if you’ve ever dealt with a busybody breeder it worries you! That may just be my anxiety. I don’t think she’s a busy body. I hope she will allow me to come after puppies are born too, to interact with each pup individually a few times before we select a puppy for me. Those are all topics that will come up over the course of time.

TRIBAL Great Danes

http://www.tribaldanes.com is another great breeder who uses ENS, and is highly involved in early socializing of her puppies. She remains involved with her puppies in their new homes as well. I struck pay dirt again!

Right now her litter is expected over the winter, which is too soon for me to give a puppy the best I can give. I need to rest, to become stronger and rebuild my energy reserves. But that’s okay–I’m in this for the long term, and there is always another litter in the future, right?

She has some success in the show ring, and her pups have done well in obedience, and competitive Rally. She attributes this to the ENS stimulation and early socializing, (yay!). This is a great breeder to find wonderfully built and trainable part European Danes! I was really excited to find her and her show handler. Her dogs are beautiful, sound, and well-tempered.

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